MPD Assistance K50

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Once again, thank you.

@MarkCole ,

Can you provide anticipated time frame for next AMS revision that could address K series issue for SSD files direct for MPD applications like Rigelian as noted by Progisus?

Are you really saying the music files pass through my ipad on the way from the k50 server to the k50 player and go through mconnectHD? If i pull the K50 ethernet cable whilst playing music, the music does not stop.

I thought it was the mpd player app on the k50 that pulled the music from the k50 server.

As mentioned, the right tool for the job.
Mconnect Player Lite will do what is required, that is, set the server and being able to set the player.
Music does not flow thru the control app, that would be ridiculous.
Regarding using your K50 Server as a NAS and K50 Player as a Server/Player no ETA, you have to realise that these requests are completely left field from normal.
And really you are using one computing device as the server/player pulling across the same wee internal connection.
I struggle to see how using Minim+MPD with seperate computing devices would sound worse as MPD is still pulling across the same wee internal connection.
Ok, so there is a difference, streaming mode vs block mode.
Also miniDLNA is a good quick option, no DSD support, if that is something you need, then MinimServer.

I loved the MinimServer with CX EX combo the K50 with MinimSever did not sound as good to me…
There must be a reason for this.
Can anyone explain ?

No reason, except for a change in devices.
Could it be that listening to other forms sound better, because the K50 is better, like comparitively speaking.
Minim + MPD does sound great IMHO :grin:

Maybe, but when I tried MinimServer with the CX EX combo I was wowed and was similar to
Roon Squeeze on the K50…
I tried MinimServer on the K50 when it was released (thank you for including it on an update)
and was disappointed.
Just wondered why the difference ?

Just enabled mini dlna on k30 and set k30 player to mpd. Started mconnect and started song. Disabled mconnect play stopped. Started again and turned off ipad. Play stopped. You probably had buffered whole song.

Mark,

I appreciate you weighing back in on this. Regarding Connect Player Lite, that is the one option I found in the App Store that indicates Identifiers and Usage Data may be used to track you across apps and websites owned by other companies–I wish to avoid that where possible.

May I suggest you edit the MPD video to make the suggestion for a version of Connect be employed, so other K series owners, including upcoming new owners, can implement and utilize MPD quickly. I invested quite a few hours trying to get the two apps, Maximum MPD and Regelian, to work without success.

Once again I wish to convey my appreciation to all that contributed and assisted me here. I did purchase mconnect player on the App Store. The app allows selection to my iMac/Airplay as a player and for UPnP Devices my Lumin X1 and K50player-UPnP/AV. I have tested all 3. Interestingly, I tried the Lumin X1 with the "Disable OpenHome " box checked and unchecked for MPD Player Settings, and the X1 played music either case. K50player-UPnP/AV UPnP Device player setting goes to my Mola-Mola. It will take me a bit of listening to various options for making an opinion on this other server and player options.

I am not sure your experiment proves that the music is flowing through the app. Also, i have a feeling that the k50 with mpd does not do whole song buffering.

And @MarkCole has just said, “ Music does not flow thru the control app, that would be ridiculous.”

Do try Squeeze server with Squeeze player on the K50. For me that is by far the best sound i have heard with the K50 so far. From what i have read i also get the feeling that although Antipodes have included various options on the K50 they also have the same view.

For instance i find mpd to have an initial wow factor but prolonged listen reveals that Squeeze/Squeeze wins through with superior subtle detail and is less brash.

Also try different outputs to connect to the dac. That will probably be influenced by the dac and the sampling rate of the files you are playing but it is certainly worth experimenting.

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Hi Nick. Thanks for interest in this topic. This has been discussed on other forums as well with no consensus. As with those who claim fuses change the sound, I do not have any technical proof. “Ridiculous” is a pretty strong word to use and if there is no merit in my use case then why say it will be implemented in the next AMS upgrade? If the path is truly from the server computer over the short internal ethernet to the player computer when using mconnect then there is no need. Maybe Antipodes could supply confirmation from mconnect of signal routing. Back to the :notes:.

I do like Squeeze and, of late, it has been the software of choice when using K50 AES/EBU and USB outputs.

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I appreciate you standing your ground on this. There can certainly be some underlying complexities that aren’t obvious.

When we use a Server and Player, MPD is acting as a client to a UPnP server. It looks like it has to do some translation to make that happen. If MPD is run on a single box, it can be a much simpler operation as MPD is just reading from the local file system to access the files. With so much less overhead, there could very well be a nice bump in sound quality. Essentially what one ends up with is a single server running a lightweight server and player. This is a common MPD use case. I think my older Pono DAP ran MPD. My Chord Poly can run in this mode too and easily the best sound quality can be achieved when accessing tracks off the SD card.

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Like this? Still works and not shown are several signatures from Prog gods obtained on Cruise To The Edge. Thanks…

Nice! Mine is black - no signatures but plenty of scratches.

I am pretty sure it runs MPD. I spent many hours enjoying music though mine.

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Somehow I think things have got misunderstood in this thread.
What is ridiculous is the music file moving thru the Remote control device, that simply does not happen.
It’s the difference in the file being pushed or pulled in simple terms.
Running in block mode rather than streaming mode has merit, hence its implementation in the next version of AMS.
So @Progisus feel justified in your setup.

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Hi,
Sometimes an update could make a difference. You never know? Good luck.

https://www.musicpd.org

Hi there, we are awaiting the update to be made available to us, apparently moving from where we are now to the latest requires much code compiling.
This isnt something that is going to happen quickly unfortunately.