This was answered in another thread, what happens when posting across multiple topics.
The API used by the Tidal Plugin is the issue in Squeeze, limiting playback to 16/44 in Squeeze currently.
Solution:
1/ switch to Qobuz
2/ utilize another software solution if you are tied to Tidal
3/ await Squeeze 3rd party app developers to rectify the issue.
4/ chill and enjoy the music
@Christian , I guess you only need to try Qobuz for free 30 days and you have your answer. Let us know please.
Hello PaulW, I wanted to answer you. I had overlooked the thread that had already described my problem and thus caused a bit more work. That was not my intention. And yes, I had already tested Qobuz on Squeeze and it worked there with HiRes files. But I wanted to compare the sound with Tidal. I thought Tidal’s sound was pretty good. It’s a bit darker, I’d say. I even reopened my Roon account and extended it for a year. My God, the Roon sound is crap. But it worked with Tidal at first. So I kept listening. Then you get back into this sound whirlpool and compare the player apps. So anything you add to Roon as a player, like Squeeze or HQPlayer, you can forget about. It just sounds thicker, smearier, the tones are a bit more colorful and the spatiality shrinks. Squeeze Server/Player sounds so good on its own, so refreshing, so full, simply perfect. The music grabs you emotionally. The only usable player server app that is any good on the Antipodes servers is SQUEEZE (Auto). From a sound perspective. Of course it’s great to have several options on our servers, but apart from Squeeze you can forget all other player apps in terms of sound. My post is not just dedicated to you, but also to everyone else, including Antipodes, because I now have to come back to the problems with Squeeze. After I re-linked Squeeze with Tidal today (login, nothing more), and deleted the music library and had it searched again, my playlists had disappeared, basically deleted. Only Tidal playlists can be found. I started a network access and looked in the folders, no mu3 files. And that’s shi… with Squeeze. Sorry for the expression, but Squeeze is unreliable. Where are my playlists? OK, maybe they weren’t that useful, but what if they had been laboriously created?! Next step, book support, yes, you can do that, the problem will definitely be solved, but the next problem with Squeeze will be around the corner anyway. What also doesn’t work with Squeeze is the radio function, no new songs are suggested to me after the queue ends. I’ve already tried all the settings. Creating playlists is always terrible too - I select songs, place them in the playlist, then I check whether the songs appear in the playlist, but the song(s) are not there. Or the current Tidal problem with the playable HiRes files. Enjoying music is difficult. I’ve already tried all internet browsers. That’s not the problem. Is Squeeze still viable in the future? How should I proceed? TOP sound with Squeeze, CRAP operation with Squeeze. Ahh, the answer is, use a different software, yes, but they all sound bad. I don’t know where I’m headed? I just want the sound of Squeeze with perfect operation. Nothing more. I’ve read about combining it with JPlay in various threads, but the sound was not competitive with Squeeze. I don’t have an iPad either. JPlay has copied Roon a lot. The user interface looks almost the same. Perfect for me if it sounds like Squeeze.
Sorry for the long text…
Christian…I’m the OP of this thread. IMO, LMS/Squeeze as an interface is dead. I’m speculating that as a not-for-profit venture, it isn’t going anywhere. When streamers/hardware are selling for thousands and tens of thousands of dollars/pounds and software developers in this space get nothing, can’t imagine their effort will last. I’d submit that’s why Innuos decided to invest in an in-house software UI, based on Squeeze, and the company can also better control its customer experience.
The latest iteration of Jplay (I do use an iPad) sounds quite good, fwiw.
Ken
Thank you for your feedback. I agree with you. I also have a feeling that Squeeze will soon be history. I have no problem switching to JPlay either, but I would like to see a statement from Antipodes on this. Then Squeeze should be removed as a possible choice/taken out of the program. Exhausted because there are too many problems and hassles with it, disappointed because it sounds so damn good and yet disappears from the market. What sound alternative can Antipodes recommend to me? Does Antipodes produce its own app? It would be nice to know before I invest money in various software and sign up for annual subscriptions again.
I get it—it’s frustrating when sound quality and usability don’t align. You clearly value the sound quality of Squeeze, but it seems playlists and radio features may not meet your expectations. I don’t use them much either, aside from JPLAY’s radio, which I find quite good (though it does require an iPad).
I’ve also had no issues with sound quality degradation using JPLAY, though I can’t speak for HQ Player as I’m not familiar with it. Personally, I like LMS to Squeeze for my local files, but MPD with MinimServer comes pretty close for me—just my two cents!
No software/app from Antipodes as far as I know. There were rumors, that’s about it. I’m sure cost is a big hurdle.
It’s always frustrating when sound quality and usability don’t go hand in hand. However, LMS/Squeeze remains a strong option for sound quality if you’re open to making some compromises. For local files, you can pair LMS/Squeeze with JPLAY for excellent results. If you’re focused on streaming, using JPLAY with MPD and MinimServer can deliver performance that is often comparable, and in some cases, equally satisfying.
To go back to OPs subject, did you read this?
Agreed in that LMS as an UI, as is, is still viable and has the best sound quality. When I wrote " it’s dead", I meant that I doubt there will be any advancement.
Hmmm, yes, you understood me completely correctly. Squeeze is my absolute favorite. I mainly listen to music from the K50’s internal SSD. Mainly WAV. I also really liked streaming via Tidal via Squeeze. Squeeze’s user interface would be completely sufficient for me, but even the smallest things, like creating playlists, radio, listening to Tidal via HiRes, are enormous challenges for Squeeze. I can’t keep bothering Antipodes support with this. There are a thousand things you can set up in Squeeze that nobody needs or understands, and probably only a third of them work. Clean out and make the most necessary and clearer and put the most important things in the foreground. Yes, it seems that I have to test JPlay next. Man, this is really getting annoying. This back and forth. Antipodes should limit itself to 2 apps and then tailor them perfectly to your devices. I’ve somehow lost interest too, but I’ll try JPlay. Maybe I’ll delete Squeeze from the K50 myself, then I won’t even be tempted to compare.
Yes, that’s right, there is no separate Antipodes app. Expensive or not, but what a great choice I have in terms of sound. Antipodes wrote at the time that the selectable player/server apps are well-developed. Roon is great to use, bad sound, many agree. Then Squeeze, we already know how it ends, but many people like the sound. Roon via Squeeze or HQPlayer is neither one thing nor the other. HQPlayer (auto)? Well, very few people have it. Terrible operation. I have no experience with the rest of the options. The only option left is MinimServer+MPD via JPlay app. And then it’s a case of hope and pray.
I am OT, but we all are currently. @Christian, if you’re looking for a smoother user experience without the need to constantly adjust apps or “hope and pray,” as you put it, you might want to consider switching to something like INNUOS. Alternatively, you could try using JPLAY with your K50, and perhaps pick up a used mini iPad to simplify things. However, even that might present some challenges.
It seems like Squeeze might not be the ideal solution for your needs, but there are definitely other options that could be a better fit. Unfortunately, we won’t know for sure until you give them a try. Good luck!
I personally don’t think Squeeze is dead. If that was the case they would’ve closed up shop after Logitech finally shut everything down. Since then the developers have re-jigged The software to deal with logitech’s exit. They even re-branded to LYRIAN Community. Long Live Squeeze !!! 
I should have been more precise. Squeeze/lyrian will be around, it’s the Material Skin that I was referring to in my earlier postings.
A skin can’t change how Squeeze server functions. All it can do is put a pretty face over it. Material does exactly that. Easy enough to change skins in Squeeze. The alternatives are visually dreadful, but the underlying functionality remains the same.
Skins can easily be enhanced to support any new functionality delivered by LMS. I believe that dependency on LMS is really what’s restricting the usability when running Squeeze.
Squeeze is not the ideal solution for anyone here. It is the worst solution in terms of usability and the best in terms of sound quality. Everyone loves Roon and its usability, but everyone is put off by the sound. How am I different from everyone else? Why should I switch to Innuos? Why not stay with Antipodes and start something? Nobody wants to deal with different apps and, as I said, “hope and pray” that the sound quality is roughly in the direction of Squeeze. I have had problems with Squeeze since I got the K50. Everyone has problems. There is no better sounding alternative to Squeeze from Antipodes. I buy the second best server from Antipodes and get the ideal sound paired with the worst usability that is maddening. Now the question is, is that the future? They should have rethought Squeeze. Almost everyone loves the sound of Squeeze. Why can’t you get Roon to sound? JPlay only recently came along. I’m still listening to it. But the JCAT Server S1 could definitely be a bogeyman. Could!
feared opponentI meant feared opponent in reference to JCAT Server S1.
Sorry if youve already commented on this but … have you listened with roon lately?
There might not be much difference.
Also, how you set up your network can have quite an imoact. There are other things to focus on that probably make a much bigger difference. I changed my internet plan to higher upload and was pleasantly surprised that the SQ improved and it was not subtle.
Hello and thank you for the tip. I haven’t done anything else with my network. It is perfectly tuned with Network Acoustics products. And all player apps play under the same conditions. Of course I tried Roon. Roon alone sounds veiled, very withdrawn and without any timbre. After sleeping on it for a night, I did another listening session today. I took a fairly difficult song, listened to “The Boxer Rebellion with Diamonds” on Roon (Auto), Roon+Squeeze, Roon+ HQPlayer (tried many filters). But I also compared some other songs, but let’s stick with the first one. With Squeeze (Auto), this veil suddenly disappeared from my ears, the stage opened up, the voices became clearer, more expressive, instruments had more air, the instruments all had their place in the room, the music is much more natural. You are immediately more emotionally gripped. Not to forget transparency and audibility. In the song Makambo by Geoffrey Oryema, you can hear the guitar strings under Squeeze (Auto) at the beginning, really organically, and you can practically feel the strings being plucked. With all the Roon configurations, it all sounds like double bass strings being plucked. The Roon sound and the configurations with Roon are terrible. On Antipodes, you can forget everything except Squeeze (Auto) (Squeeze Server/Squeeze Player). If Squeeze really were history, I wouldn’t know what to do? I don’t think the Antipodes K50 would be useless for me. The rest just doesn’t sound right. As long as Squeeze still works, I’ll let it run. It doesn’t matter how easy it is to use. I’ll test Jplay when the time comes, when Squeeze really does disappear.
