Thank you so much for your response. Already cleared cache and rebooted a couple more times just in case. I have a support session setup for this evening my time. I’ll let you know to cancel if it somehow fixes itself before the appointment. Thank you for your support and talk to you soon.
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@MarkCole Hello, I updated my K50 to AMS v4.4 today. The message “… C3PO would not be installed” appeared. After the update everything works as before. Thanks very much.
If I now activate C3PO, all FLAC files are sampled from 16/44.1 to 24/384. But all WAVE files are output in the original format 16/24. Do I have to change something else? WAVE it specified as input. My DAC would be Dcs Bartok over USB.
Thanks
The resample checkbox must be checked for each format you want it to scale. This is under Advanced Player Settings for 3CPO.
Your Bartok may do better with native and not scaled. Be sure to do some comparisons. If you prefer native, then disable C-3PO.
The Resample check box is checked for WAVE. Nevertheless, WAVE files are played in the original format 16/44.1.
After updating to 4.4, Squeeze behaves strangely.
Only cbr files are played properly.
Not vbr files.
When I rip with the P1 i get vbr files!?
Does this have anything to do with the above?
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Turn off C-3PO to find out.
Thx Kenny
That was indeed the solution.
(I did not read anywhere the relationship of vbr files.)
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So that means the C3PO function in AMSv4.4 is faulty and actually only partially usable (only for FLAC)?
Hi Erolo,
In my case, I could not play flac files that are vbr.
Flac files that are cbr play perfectly.
I never play MP3.
The C3PO option is still under development from what I understand.
I was able to play flac and wav, CBR and VBR with C3PO enabled. However, flac files were resampled, wav were played with the original sampling rate.
I think it depends on the DAC.
My DAC is a PSaudio Directstream.
It’s important to understand that the Squeeze ecosystem wasn’t commercially developed. It’s open source, which largely means that volunteers have contributed to the development of the apps and plugins with no interest whatsoever in being compensated for their efforts. The C-3PO developer seemed to lose interest in continuing to develop this further, but Antipodes was able to get him to do so. Open source software is free to use but often is true that we get what we pay for. The plugins may solve some of our use cases but there is a likelihood that the plugin fails to solve them all. I wouldn’t use C-3PO or any other plugin unless it was delivering functionality that was needed. In my case I need it was Squeeze is limited to 4FS (192K) without it.
If one is looking to resample (upscale), the better choice is HQPlayer.
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So should we leave Squeeze alone and invest in affordable player software? Do I now get top sound with Antipodes or with software developers like Squeeze who don’t know what they are doing. So I don’t feel like wasting my time on something like that. To torment myself through several and thousands of settings. What is Antipodes default player software that sounds best with their servers?
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Do your ears really tell you that they don’t know what they are doing? Squeeze has the best sound quality on Antipodes, in my humble opinion.
I believe Antipodes understands that they need to release their own solution. This is not an easy thing to undertake, so it will likely take years of development even to just match the capabilities that Squeeze server provides.
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I like using Roon icw Squeeze player a lot.
But must admit that Squeeze server and Squeeze player sounds better.
C-3P0 can handle WAV and output to a desired rate.
For a Merason for example, using USB the max is 24/192, Bartok 384.
In setting C-3P0 we need to accommodate for the multiples of 44.1 and 48, so that’s enabling 176 and 192 as in the image below, so then if we play 44.1 WAV it will upsample to 176, if we play a 48 WAV it will upsample to 192.
Conversely, if we have say a 705 PGGB file it will be downsampled to 176, and 768 to 192 in the Merason, 352 and 384 in the Bartok.
Merason
Bartok
Antipodes believes that the best sound obtained from our servers is by using Squeeze.
However, that’s our opinion, your music, your DAC, your room, your ears are different to ours.
To my knowledge we give the most amount of options/tweaking available in the industry, it is up to the user to decide what’s best for them.
Antipodes has a program of constant software development, we are actively improving the usability of Squeeze, and our interface via the Solution Dashboard.
The addition of C-3P0 and Spotify are just small steps in our greater goal.
C-3P0 is not yet complete as Antipodes have yet to release the DSD sampling capabilities, there is no doubt that the interface of C-3P0 and learning how it operates are a less than stellar experience, this is the raw plug-in as the developer designed it.
End of the day it is up to you to decide if these features are for you, and you like to play with them, if not, dis-able them and just sit back and enjoy the music.
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I’m in the process of installing a K40 to link up with a K22.
The K40 gives a warning that I don’t have a valid output connected.
Roon is currently working from NAS files while the files are being transferred to K40 SSDs.
I have the K40 Direct Stream output connected to the K22 network input. Is this the correct connection?
Also, while I have the K40 connected to the network, it does not show on the network. Instead the K22 is shown even though that is not connected to the network.
Hi there, welcome, I assume you are up to date with AMSv4.4?
I think that your network and the K40 are working overtime with NAS, K22, playback and network copy.
You have the connection of K40 and K22 correct, K40 to router, Direct Stream out of K40 to K22 input.
The K22 is connected to the network/internet thru the K40.
I would wait for your copy to finish, if you continue to have issues, make an appointment for remote access support.
Thanks. I’ll wait for the files to finish transfer.